etiquette... doesn't exist

[isCasted]

This is exactly like American players being annoyed at Russian or Spanish players in games who are not speaking English.

In all online games I ever played I always was embarrassed that Russian-speaking players do that. That made me feel as if we were raised in different environments, I didn't get how they didn't understand those things how I did. Not just that, but also they said "Fuck you, I do what I want" when I tried to tell them why it's bad.

I see same tendention among average B20ians - they speak stuff like "Hey, B12! I'm back!", discuss their own problems there or spam random phrases that just piss people off, and when anyone dares to tell them that it's not right, you immediately hear "Fuck you, I do what I want".

People speaking any language do not care that other people cannot read their own language and don't see it as embarrassing in any way to be speaking their own language, even if they are a minority of a certain game's community.

It's annoying. Even if you ignore the part with "secrecy" of those talks, it's still and informational noise, just like "..." chat boxes - they say nothing to you but they are still there and you can do nothing about it without interfering.

[Galax]

Little presuming to say etiquette doesn't exist based only on JP etiquette and then to basically say that absolutely no EN players use it...

At least, that's what I got out of the OP here.

[Sizustar]

I would say it's the uncoordinated players, and players who aren't interested in learning. The ones that just do their thing, and don't care what comes of it.

Players like that exist in every country, it's just that the english ones are loud in lobbies. I couldn't tell you what to look for if you want to see which JPs are like that, besides inspecting gear and stuff.

True, player that don't know how to do it, but if they listen once other tell them how to do it, is fine.
Those that don't listen, and answer back, lol or I play how I want to play is not as good.

[Chdata]

In all online games I ever played I always was embarrassed that Russian-speaking players do that. That made me feel as if we were raised in different environments, I didn't get how they didn't understand those things how I did. Not just that, but also they said "Fuck you, I do what I want" when I tried to tell them why it's bad.

I see same tendention among average B20ians - they speak stuff like "Hey, B12! I'm back!", discuss their own problems there or spam random phrases that just piss people off, and when anyone dares to tell them that it's not right, you immediately hear "Fuck you, I do what I want".

It's annoying. Even if you ignore the part with "secrecy" of those talks, it's still and informational noise, just like "..." chat boxes - they say nothing to you but they are still there and you can do nothing about it without interfering.

Only hearing it on mic annoys me but then I can just mute them in any good game.

As for text, being bothered by text is silly. I pay too much attention to the actual game to even notice text that isn't related to a drop or E-trial. I also never really notice those [...] boxes.

So basically, I don't understand the mindset that it's a source of embarrassment for you, or for anyone else, for people to just talk in their own language. Obviously people of other races exist, right?

The only thing I think is stupid are people who look for VH/SH TACO parties in B10 or B11. You're not going to find anyone to join you there! And incidentally I never see them do. They all give up. They all could have just gone to b20 if they wanted to advert in English and were OK with partying with English randoms and gotten a fully party in 5 minutes instead of an hour of nothing.

Or they could learn how to party with JP.

[gigawuts]

True, player that don't know how to do it, but if they listen once other tell them how to do it, is fine.
Those that don't listen, and answer back, lol or I play how I want to play is not as good.

Yeah, I don't think it's an issue of nationality. I think it's an issue of visibility. There are bad players everywhere, but the EN ones insist on lobby rats.

I have bad runs with JPs all the time - I just can't predict it based on their names, like I can with EN names. That said, there are also plenty of EN names I can recognize and know will be decent players.

[jooozek]

its all thanks to that spoiled "freedom of speech" that americans like to boast about

[Chdata]

Should we be yelling at JP players for speaking Japanese publicly in lobbies?

Are there any Eng players offended by JP that do that?

I mean, when I end up partying with JP names I at least turn off my autowords.

[gigawuts]

Should we be yelling at JP players for speaking Japanese publicly in lobbies?

Are there any Eng players offended by JP that do that?

Are there any JP that do that?

I've seen, like, five JPs do that. Ever.

[Daiyousei]

I found that they tend to chat more in blocks like playstyle free.

[Chdata]

I dunno, I see it every once in a while.

Spanish is admittedly a little more annoying to see in text form than anything else just because they use an alphabet I can recognize which draws my attention more to their nothingness than ascii characters I already can't read and thus can ignore easier.