Why do people only use 1 Weak Bullet during Arms and then nothing for ages?

[TaigaUC]

Here's something that's been bugging me for a long time:
I've noticed that Weak Bullet users on Arms tend to just use one bullet and then nothing for around 3-5 minutes.

Weak Bullet's cooldown isn't that long.
Is it common for people to only have 1 point in Weak Bullet or something?

Personally, I always have 10 points in WB.
I preload WB immediately, then I fire it on as many nearby Arms' butts as possible.
By the time it wears off, I can reapply it. I prioritize the Arms that people are focusing on.

[Poyonche]

Maybe all Rangers aren't like you. :3

But I Do that too (pre-load WB then fire on Arms's butts)

[Pugas87]

Here's something that's been bugging me for a long time:
I've noticed that Weak Bullet users on Arms tend to just use one bullet and then nothing for around 3-5 minutes.

Weak Bullet's cooldown isn't that long.
Is it common for people to only have 1 point in Weak Bullet or something?

Personally, I always have 10 points in WB.
I preload WB immediately, then I fire it on as many nearby Arms' butts as possible.
By the time it wears off, I can reapply it. I prioritize the Arms that people are focusing on.

One of my teammates critiqued someone applying WB to all arms as a bad ranger move. To which I responded, actually sounds like a great ranger move. Said team member did not know that all the arms share HP, and therefore thought each should be attacked and killed before moving to the next. Perhaps this thinking is common.

[Chik'Tikka]

One of my teammates critiqued someone applying WB to all arms as a bad ranger move. To which I responded, actually sounds like a great ranger move. Said team member did not know that all the arms share HP, and therefore thought each should be attacked and killed before moving to the next. Perhaps this thinking is common.

The thinking is that they do share HP, if all four arms are WBed at once, only four people can attack each arm and do WB damage for that 15 seconds, however, if only 1 arm is WBed, then 12 people can attack that one arm for 15 seconds, then you re-apply the WB allowing for 12 people to do 1 minute worth of WB damage rather then 15 seconds+^_^+ am i making sense?

By focusing the MPA's attacks and dmg on one WB at a time, you can stack them so the MPA does more DPS for longer while WB cools down+^_^+

[Rien]

The thinking is that they do share HP, if all four arms are WBed at once, only four people can attack each arm and do WB damage for that 15 seconds, however, if only 1 arm is WBed, then 12 people can attack that one arm for 15 seconds, then you re-apply the WB allowing for 12 people to do 1 minute worth of WB damage rather then 15 seconds+^_^+ am i making sense?

By focusing the MPA's attacks and dmg on one WB at a time, you can stack them so the MPA does more DPS for longer while WB cools down+^_^+

This is how it goes on paper, however this is almost never the case because the arms move on their own, so the WB'd arm has *some* tendency to turn away and move out, causing melee attackers to focus on a closer arm instead of bothering to chase.

Thus, WB a single arm is not the most efficient off paper.

[TaigaUC]

I guess I just can't imagine why anyone would only put around 1 point into Weak Bullet.

Or are people waiting for the 1 bullet to wear off before using another one?

One of my teammates critiqued someone applying WB to all arms as a bad ranger move. To which I responded, actually sounds like a great ranger move. Said team member did not know that all the arms share HP, and therefore thought each should be attacked and killed before moving to the next. Perhaps this thinking is common.

Oh. That's a good point. Thanks.

[Hexxy]

I guess I just can't imagine why anyone would only put around 1 point into Weak Bullet.

Or are people waiting for the 1 bullet to wear off before using another one?



Oh. That's a good point. Thanks.

People generally do this because most of the mpa will focus on a single arm (the one being stunned to death, hopefully).

If you have bravers or people with wide attacks though, putting WB on several arms is actually beneficial, as things like a fully powered Katana Finish will hit several arms for 300-600k each in one go.

[Pugas87]

People generally do this because most of the mpa will focus on a single arm (the one being stunned to death, hopefully).

If you have bravers or people with wide attacks though, putting WB on several arms is actually beneficial, as things like a fully powered Katana Finish will hit several arms for 300-600k each in one go.

This would be great if the mpa had a hive mind (or at least followed other people's example) and could focus on one arm everytime. Most experiences I've had is a flipping free for all hit what you can. Some people don't even notice when an arm has WB (or believes it to be too far away) and continue to attack the arm they were previously attacking because reasons. That's where the multiple WBs on multiple butts comes in handy.

[Hexxy]

Your arm runs take 3-5 minutes? Do people on your ship leave to bake cupcakes at the start of the fight or something?

Seems kind of pointless to bring just 1 bullet to the fight though, especially since capping WB doesn't hurt your tree in any way. I think you're just experiencing a really bad case of user error here.

[TaigaUC]

Yeah, I've been in some really bad Arms runs in the past.
I recall one of them taking at least 7 minutes. It was very painful.

It's basically like this:
Battle starts. I wonder if we have a WB user. Nothing for a while. Eventually I see WB appear. Yay, a WBer!
Then... after that, nothing again. For ages and ages.
I run all over the place constantly checking for WBs. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Sometimes until the end of the entire battle.
And I wonder... why??

I like my Arms runs to take around 10 seconds.
Having WB on a bunch of Arms butts and then doing AOE stuff when they overlap deals ridiculously high damage.