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  1. #2341

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunga View Post
    Using atra talis with rod s4 and epd makes force so much more enjoyable to play.
    it does, rainbow Rod/Talis is great, less gear to bring with you and convenience

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    Motav should easily replace atra when the element convert buff rolls by.
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    Atra Rod with Talis S4 also sounds nice.

  4. #2344

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunga View Post
    Motav should easily replace atra when the element convert buff rolls by.
    good thing i have one sitting around spec'd out waiting to be used as a main Talis then

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    So maybe someone can help me out here. Swiki updated their Flame Tech DPS chart with Photon Flare Rod SC numbers but there is something I don't get.
    When calculating DPS they go "Power / Charge Time * 60 Frames = DPS" so Foie for example is 718 / 60 * 60 = 718, which makes sense.
    But for Rod SC they went with 718 / 42 * 60 = 1025 and I have no idea where they got the 42 from. Photon Flare Rod SC reduces charge time by 60% so shouldn't it be 24 charge duration rather than 42?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XrosBlader821 View Post
    So maybe someone can help me out here. Swiki updated their Flame Tech DPS chart with Photon Flare Rod SC numbers but there is something I don't get.
    When calculating DPS they go "Power / Charge Time * 60 Frames = DPS" so Foie for example is 718 / 60 * 60 = 718, which makes sense.
    But for Rod SC they went with 718 / 42 * 60 = 1025 and I have no idea where they got the 42 from. Photon Flare Rod SC reduces charge time by 60% so shouldn't it be 24 charge duration rather than 42?
    you're forgetting there is charge + cast time (0.5s or 30f)

    foie with flame tech - 0.5s charge + 0.5s cast (30f + 30f = 60f)
    foie with flame + flare - 0.5s*(1 - 0.6) charge + 0.5s cast (12f + 30f = 42f)

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    you're forgetting there is charge + cast time (0.5s or 30f)

    foie with flame tech - 0.5s charge + 0.5s cast (30f + 30f = 60f)
    foie with flame + flare - 0.5s*(1 - 0.6) charge + 0.5s cast (12f + 30f = 42f)
    Ah that makes a lot more sense. Thank you

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    So I have Atra Rod with S4 EC and now have Motav 14*. Do I need to get EPD or can I run with the Atra Rod I made ages ago and still have a top tier Force Rod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapgunner View Post
    So I have Atra Rod with S4 EC and now have Motav 14*. Do I need to get EPD or can I run with the Atra Rod I made ages ago and still have a top tier Force Rod?
    i wouldn't bother, atra is quite good. one option you do have though is to make EPD and turn your atra into photon flare cd stick (the talis s4).

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    i wouldn't bother, atra is quite good. one option you do have though is to make EPD and turn your atra into photon flare cd stick (the talis s4).
    Thanks for the quick reply. Guess I'm off to fully grind my Motav and play around with it today.

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