Summoner Class Discussion

[Kondibon]

You can play Maron and see for yourself.
Basically Maron Shield 95% of the time then Maron Strike for 999999
So it has really good synergy with Chain Trigger.

It's good with Torim (if you're in a party), Synchro, and Viola too.

[starwind75043]

You can play Maron and see for yourself.
Basically Maron Shield 95% of the time then Maron Strike for 999999
So it has really good synergy with Chain Trigger.

On another topic, I did ask before but no one answered....
What good rolls can be used instead of Substitute Rolls?

Which pet are you looking for roll advice on?

My personal preference is to be defensive minded with rolls. Reduce down time on Marron, Reduce damage on Aero/Trim things like that

[Moffen]

how much is the downtime reduced on marron with the roll anyway?

I have 10 rolls awaiting a placing.
And enough marrons to bomb a small continent.

[nguuuquaaa]

Which pet are you looking for roll advice on?

My personal preference is to be defensive minded with rolls. Reduce down time on Marron, Reduce damage on Aero/Trim things like that

Torim and Redran. I plan to stick 2 Bravado Rolls on Torim, but I don't know what to put on Redran.

[Kondibon]

On another topic, I did ask before but no one answered....
What good rolls can be used instead of Substitute Rolls?

I missed this edit. :Wacko: Support rolls are a personal favorite of mine, especially now that you can transfer sympathy between pets. You can also use the conversion rolls for Jinga, Popple, Viola, and Melon.

how much is the downtime reduced on marron with the roll anyway?

I have 10 rolls awaiting a placing.
And enough marrons to bomb a small continent.

Each of them reduces the down time by 10% so two would be 12 second for Maron bringing it from 60s to 48s. It's pretty worth it I think, thought it may not be as important if you're running nothing but Marons.

[starwind75043]

Honestly for for the redran I am thinking of using the alter ego pp reduction one just because its range is so great(dam near tagging mother hands half way across the map)

Shikkari roll is 10% revive time reduction, so you get 48s maron down time with two of these.

For other pets, always stick with alter ego roll if you can afford them.

Sparb if your looking for time frame on on the down time reducing rolls

Alenoir has good suggestion for other pets

Not Kondibon but here's how I see some of them. I don't English patch, so you're gonna have to guess what some of these are in the translation.

Universal "I want more damage and have PP to burn" parfait: Gamushara (10% pet PA damage ↑, 25% PP consumption ↑)
Universal Ares parfait: Blast (4%/5%/6%, works like Ares weapon latent)

Universal roll that a lot of people likes: Shikkari (20% faster KO recovery, stack 2 for 40%)

Wanda/Melon/Viola/Shinkurou:
I don't really use them, can't give any suggestion.

Torim/Aero:
Depends on what you want your bird to do, it can take a lot of stuffs.
- Megaton Parfait: 9% damage ↑ vs boss.
- Hakiriki Parfait: 40% damage ↑ to normal attacks. For when you need to reposition yourself or something and can't just keep spamming the PA.
- Ultimate Parfait: 8% damage ↑ against ultimate enemies. For when you lives off ultimate quests.
- Harapeko Parfait: 7% damage ↑ when PP is below 50%. Think PP Slayer.

- Ouen Roll: Tiny buff to most stats from Pet Sympathy calls.
- Migawari Roll: 10% less PP usage during Alter Ego, stack 2 for 20%.
- Tsuyogari Roll: 10% received damage ↓ from boss symbol enemies. (The diamond shaped icons on minimap.)

Sally/Sari/Saly/whatever/Popple/why is this pet's name so hard:
- Kiai Parfait: 8% dmg ↑ when it's within 1 mirage escape's distance from you, 4% if it's 1 to 2 mirage escape's distance, 0% outside of that. Think Zero Range Advance 'cept it's between you and your pet.
- Ultimate Parfait: If you lives off ultimate with a sally/popple.

Maron:
- Megaton Parfait: Because.
- Gyakuten Parfait: 6% dmg ↑ when its HP is below 1/4. This will aways activate on bomb throw.
- Ultimate Parfait: If you l(ry

- Henkan Roll: Take 4% of your pet's DEF stats and add that number to their ATK. Maron's DEF isn't that high, but it's something. (Example: Maron no buff 13* Lv120 T-DEF 1271, they would gain ~51 T-ATK for that.)
- Shikkari Roll: Figure I'll mention that if you put 2 Shikkari on a maron, the recovery time is 36 seconds instead of 60 seconds.

Totally special occasion: Critical
This can go for any pets you want for critical. Your crit rate can go to a minimum of 45% without other players if you don't sub a FI and run the Lv20 Critical Strike Tech ring.
- Hissatsu Parfait: 10% dmg ↑ on critical hits.
- Ouen Roll: 10% critical rate ↑ when you Pet Sympathy on the Shifta request.
- Critical Stick Candy: 7% critical rate ↑, size 1x4.

[Kondibon]

Honestly for for the redran I am thinking of using the alter ego pp reduction one just because its range is so great(dam near tagging mother hands half way across the map)

I want them for redran too, but it's going slow with how sparsely I play.

[nguuuquaaa]

Should've said I play TE/SU so no Sympathy and Alter Ego
I'll keep those suggestion in mind when I have a skill tree reset and/or new tree for SU main.

[BlakLanner]

Should've said I play TE/SU so no Sympathy and Alter Ego
I'll keep those suggestion in mind when I have a skill tree reset and/or new tree for SU main.

Then your best bets are revive reduction and maybe boss damage reduction if you really want something different. Conversion rolls just don't do enough.

[Imca]

I like finish rolls my self, and stability ones.