Mining Base Demolition: Tower's Demise

[LonelyGaruga]

Banish kamikaze is Br's best solution for exoda no matter your build is S-atk or R-atk

I'll explain it more thoroughly then.

If you're playing Br/Hu, the optimal build is S-ATK, and you would use Kamikaze Arrow.
If you're playing Br/Ra, the optimal build is R-ATK, and you would use Penetrate Arrow.
If you're playing Br/Hu and build for R-ATK, you're doing it wrong.
If you're playing Br/Ra and use Kamikaze Arrow, you're doing it wrong, because Ranger has far higher ranged multipliers than striking multipliers.

What about the walls though.

Reduced HP? MBD4?

idk I never had much trouble with the walls. If there's walls in the way then leave Vibras more quickly. Though I use A.I.S. on W5 personally, idk what you're doing for it.

I don't understand your questions. MBD4 = TD4 = Mining Base Defense: Despair Demise. The enemies obviously have nerfed HP, they're all weaker than in the other MBD quests.

[Bellion]

^Correct that to Demise!

But yes, everything there has less HP compared to the other MBDs.

Edit: Fine, almost everything. Never cared about walls in MBD4 and haven't actually bothered with them since they aren't as annoying as MBD3 wall blocks.

[sparab]

If you're playing Br/Hu and build for R-ATK, you're doing it wrong.

I agree with others but this one made my day.

And darker walls have the same HP in despair/demise (tested with satecannon)

[LonelyGaruga]

^Correct that to Demise!

But yes, everything there has less HP compared to the other MBDs.

omfg I swear I have a 70%+ error rate when referring to Despair and Demise why do they have to be named so similarly

I agree with others but this one made my day.

And darker walls have the same HP in despair/demise (tested with satecannon)

Are you saying R-ATK Br/Hu is good?

Darker walls aren't enemies.

[Keilyn]

@sparab

What is the health pool for the walls in Despair/Demise?

I tend to play support and usually end up gathering crystals in the random MPAs I am with because few to no one grabs crystals. Then I have some support combos I use towards the last rounds to help out a lot.

[TaigaUC]

idk I never had much trouble with the walls. If there's walls in the way then leave Vibras more quickly. Though I use A.I.S. on W5 personally, idk what you're doing for it.

I don't understand your questions. MBD4 = TD4 = Mining Base Defense: Despair Demise. The enemies obviously have nerfed HP, they're all weaker than in the other MBD quests.

I see "MB" and my mind only thinks of "matterboard" or "mother brain".

PUGs keep failing wave 3 and 4, so I usually have to use my AIS then.
Most PUGs can never seem to kill Biblas/Vibras Yuga though. Even with seemingly everybody on it.
Some PUGs take forever to kill Biblas/Vibras in wave 1, too.
So I never imagined that Biblas/Vibras and its bombs have less HP.

Lately, I've been seeing PUGs unable to kill titled Hunar for the entire wave.

[sparab]

Darker walls have ~0.75m health (swiki), roughly 6 hits from satecannon or plus some uncharged EA if I missed standing snipe

And yes I use full R-atk gears BrHu for quests that evolves many boss fights. Banish kamikaze outdamage banish pene (BrRa) as long as you can hit it

[Aine]

Penetrate should outdamage Kamikaze by far if you can get it to 2-hit on the head. It also has the advantage of not moving your character so one Te can Zanverse multiple Br during Wave 3, for example.

[wefwq]

Tried running TD4 after took vacation from it for awhile.
Don't know if it because sheer of luck or PUG in general get good already, but both run was a success.
It's not S rank run or anything great, but it's still clear.

[sparab]

Banish kamikaze*2 cost 65 while banish pene*7 cost 190 PP, which also does less damage unless you get double hits

BrRa is just an obsolete build imo which only does better than BrHu(bow) in a few quests where kamikaze is unreliable, like magatsu