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    I don't think anyone but you has a gimmick build with 1200hp or something in LB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vantpers View Post
    I don't think anyone but you has a gimmick build with 1200hp or something in LB.
    yeas i am have it, realy enough 700-800 for it.
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    Let's say you have 1000hp. You get smacked for 700. You have 300, but then monomate restores 300 or whatever the percentage was. You now have 600. You get smacked again for 700. Now I'm not sure how fast Automate actually is, but I'm pretty sure Iron Will would kick in to save you, and then Automate might heal you, or it won't heal at all. How does this conflict with each other? The only annoyances here are that there is lag on those skills, yes, this is true. That doesn't affect you having both and having a conflict between the two skills. The other annoyance would be using LB and having automate going off since any hit that you did survive from would eat a mate. Having Iron Will might proc this more, but then you must have some high faith in 30% proc. Are you best friends with Dudu? Most attacks are going to send you under 50% during LB, if not kill you. If you did survive, chances are it was with 1 hp, or more than a monomate could restore to put you back over 50% hp so it can even proc again. Having reassurance that Iron Will can proc immediately after being used is nice, for one point. That looks like the real argument here, some flawed data and one measly skill point.
    Last edited by Dephinix; Feb 16, 2016 at 05:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dephinix View Post
    Let's say you have 1000hp. You get smacked for 700. You have 300, but then monomate restores 300 or whatever the percentage was. You now have 600. You get smacked again for 700. Not I'm not sure how fast Automate actually is, but I'm pretty sure Iron Will would kick in to save you, and then Automate might heal you, or it won't heal at all. How does this conflict with each other? The only annoyances here are that there is lag on those skills, yes, this is true. That doesn't affect you having both and having a conflict between the two skills. The other annoyance would be using LB and having automate going off since any hit that you did survive from would eat a mate. Having Iron Will might proc this more, but then you must have some high faith in 30% proc. Are you best friends with Dudu? Most attacks are going to send you under 50% during LB, if not kill you. If you did survive, chances are it was with 1 hp, or more than a monomate could restore to put you back over 50% hp so it can even proc again. Having reassurance that Iron Will can proc immediately after being used is nice, for one point. That looks like the real argument here, some flawed data and one measly skill point.
    You don't really want to have monomates on you. Cuz when a monomate don't bring you over 50% then automate wont proc again until you heal yourself manually over 50%.

    I asked about IW+automate combo a few times and got the same answer.
    If you don't trust synthsy, you can always "waste" a reset pass to see it yourself.
    Last edited by gabor100; Feb 16, 2016 at 05:36 PM.

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    i am have 1 SP in iron will and Automate. Also i am use LB in any dangerouse situation.
    I am dont saw problems. But sometimes incoming damage > mine HP in LB.
    For example: TE buff gone and splash from magatsu hit me with 960. Many times in that situation IW save me.
    30% proc rate not bad for rarely situatuon.
    and yes, i am dont take monomates (only in soloXQ)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabor100 View Post
    You don't really want to have monomates on you. Cuz when a monomate don't bring you over 50% then automate wont proc again until you heal yourself manually over 50%.

    I asked about IW+automate combo a few times and got the same answer.
    If you don't trust synthsy, you can always "waste" a reset pass to see it yourself.
    Why should I trust him/her when he/she is the only search result on google talking about a unspecified conflict?
    Last edited by XrosBlader821; Feb 16, 2016 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabor100 View Post
    You don't really want to have monomates on you. Cuz when a monomate don't bring you over 50% then automate wont proc until you heal yourself manually over 50%.

    I asked IW+automate combo a few times and i got the same answer.
    If you don't trust synthsy, you can always "waste" a reset pass to see it yourself.
    If you're only relying on Automate and never heal yourself, or are never in an mpa with someone using Resta, then sure, ditch the monomates. I don't have a problem healing myself though, and usually ditch automate anyways. To reiterate, the whole argument was:
    Quote Originally Posted by gabor100 View Post
    That one point in Iron Will(while running Automate) will do more harm than good.
    Then you go to post this Reddit link, which, of course, it's Reddit, you guys believe everything and anything: "If you have Iron Will on, then it's going to conflict with Automate. Also, during extreme lag, both client and server side, there will be a delay in automate proccing."

    There is no statement why they conflict, just, "it conflicts, GG".

    As far as wasting a reset pass, I'm sitting on 35 all skill resets and I started playing since Braver came out. Guess how many characters and skill trees I have made? I've tried it back when Braver was new, though I prefered IW maxed with Just Recover on the Braver tree, automatically resets IW's use. I was using it recently until discussing Hu/Fi with vantpers, and still use it on my Fi/Hu since I can live without 50 s atk. You are more than welcome to prove synthsy correct, but I don't see how he came to the conclusion of them conflicting, other than you really shouldn't need both maxed, and of course lag being an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireswordRus View Post
    i am have 1 SP in iron will and Automate. Also i am use LB in any dangerouse situation.
    I am dont saw problems. But sometimes incoming damage > mine HP in LB.
    For example: TE buff gone and splash from magatsu hit me with 960. Many times in that situation IW save me.
    30% proc rate not bad for rarely situatuon.
    and yes, i am dont take monomates (only in soloXQ)
    over a year and you still git hit by magatsu waves lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dephinix View Post

    Then you go to post this Reddit link, which, of course, it's Reddit
    Is PSO-W any better? Why should i trust you guys when you don't trust others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dephinix View Post
    You are more than welcome to prove synthsy correct
    And you are more then welcome to prove synthsy wrong.
    Last edited by gabor100; Feb 16, 2016 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    over a year and you still git hit by magatsu waves lol.....
    dont need worry about it and try to block or dodge, he a have very low chance to kill me, maybe 1 hit for 100 runs.
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