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    Exclamation Beware of tomorrow 's PSO 2 Arks Live!!

    It seems that some people are dissatisfied with "Firearms Chip" implemented in PSO2es.
    User comments may be terrible.

    I pray that the heart of management will not suffer with some morbid opinion...


    http://embed.pixiv.net/decorate.php?illust_id=55541521

    https://www65.atwiki.jp/firearms/

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    So the implementation of "firearm chip" is rigged or i get it the wrong way?

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    Presumably the fact that despite not being a winner in the es 'pick a new weaponoid' ranking, it's being added to es anyway for a reason I can't remember them saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wefwq View Post
    So the implementation of "firearm chip" is rigged or i get it the wrong way?
    I don't think there would be a riot if Firearms made it in PSO2es... sadly this is the only one out of the 8 winners of the previous contest that's not going to appear.

    I bet most of you who love the Dewman girl, イオ, have seen fanart from this artist.

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    AH! I see the problem now.

    Looks like we have a case of SJW censorship that I thought only appeared in the west. They were complaining they were not getting the exact artwork that they had voted for and only changed Firearm's pose.

    **What they voted for***
    http://pso2.jp/players/event/4millio...ontest/result/

    ***Comparison***
    Last edited by scrunchie; Dec 9, 2016 at 01:03 PM. Reason: New info

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    I understand people are disappointed for not getting the artwork they voted for, but this isn't... "SJW censorship".

    But I wonder why Sega chose to change the artwork, there was nothing wrong with the original, there must have been some kind of reason, maybe the artwork we saw in voting is the released version? The artwork on chips sometimes changes when you release them. My only hope is that the artist was cool with the changes, I don't particular care for the change itself. However, I kind of get the feeling not many people care either, because I haven't seen any mention of this in the PSO2 hashtag on twitter, or any other JP communities.
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    Oh, so SEGA themselves decided to give a new picture? Well the original one was probably too risque, Beatmario (Sachiko concert composer and legendary Touhou arranger),called the unfinished version sexy and was really looking forward to the full body image. Beatmario praises many of this artist's works that are far lewder than this.
    https://twitter.com/beatmario/status/701286534608064512

    There is a change.org petition about this with 150 signatures last time I checked. If these fans are like fans here in the west, attacking someone they admire is like attacking a significant other. I think they want to give 紅林のえ (the artist) some more reassurance and show him/ her that the fans will do anything to support them.
    https://www.change.org/p/sega-pso2-%...81%97%E3%81%84
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    Well good to know the Japanese get worked up into an internet fury over dumb pointless things like we do over here.

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    My point is, is that when you release chips (upgrade their level cap in the game) the artwork sometimes changes, characters go into different poses, sometimes they gain something on their outfit, etc. It's entirely possible that the original design is just the "released" version of the chip. I have no idea because I haven't SEEN the chip released artwork, but I imagine that's what happened. There's way more risque looking chips in PSO2es *cough*bluesy requiem*cough* so I really, really, doubt the design of the chip motivated the change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raujinn View Post
    Well good to know the Japanese get worked up into an internet fury over dumb pointless things like we do over here.
    I think that's just human nature, everyone likes to get worked up over silly things, but that's off topic.
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    it sounds like the issue here is that it was included in the "honorable mentions" section of the weaponoid design contest; SEGA prefaces the honorable mentions with something that effectively said they were not going to make chips from those designs. Now that one of those designs is actually being made into a chip people are getting up in arms.

    While the possiblility that SEGA may still/already has commissioned the other artists to make new art for the designs they submitted (and that could mean the other artists are all under Non-Disclosure Agreements until official announcements); that may not be as likely, as apparently there is evidence that the artist for Firearms was getting cozy with [SEGA Employee or idk] over twitter; which may have led them to get some strings pulled so they could get commissioned for their Firearms design anyway. There was also a mention that [SEGA Employee or idk] may have promoted a NSFW Io drawing of theirs at somehow at some point before covering it up.

    It still seems a little fishy to me; if they wanted to slide a shady deal past the general playerbase they should have commissioned a different weaponoid to be drawn entirely, but I can't say I understand the whole story myself

    EDIT: edited out names because I can't completely trust google translate to get those right

    also LMAO @ "swj cencorship"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorak000 View Post
    the artist for Firearms was getting cozy with [SEGA Employee or idk] over twitter; which may have led them to get some strings pulled so they could get commissioned for their Firearms design anyway. There was also a mention that [SEGA Employee or idk] may have promoted a NSFW Io drawing of theirs at somehow at some point before covering it up.
    Here is some of the Twitter beef here.
    http://i.imgur.com/DiIpttj.jpg
    Kurebayashi Noe (the artist) and Ai Ichitaro (the main man behind all of PSO2 livestreams) were first having a friendly conversation and were planning on promoting the artist. Ichitaro asked Noe why he/she hasn't made a comic book yet and isn't a pro until they make one.

    This could be all a set that works in their favor. Ichitaro says he might broadcast them battling (PVP update?) each other live as a joke.

    Edit:
    Ichitaro seemed like a huge jerk on Twitter. Maybe it could be a fake account because they put (FA) next to Ichitaros name?
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