some of use hardcore players have still been here since Alpha/Beta testing days but I'd like to think they started NGS around Ep5 or so (though I agree with them pushing NGS faster thanks to MS money being poured in). Also the hiring openings like a year or two back also felt like a give away along with them pulling people away to work on main projects which again I feel was NGS this whole time. Though I don't disagree with most of the playerbase falling and of course cosmetics can't exactly be the only thing to keep this game running.
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