My Final Rant

[InfernoNR7]

This is my opinion, if I get flammed for this rant, than I'm just going to leave the forum for good, instead of just for a long time. (BTW, it has nothing (well, almost) to do with today's events, and me being such a prick).

(Base rant for this is:
1: How words are perverted
2: How fag is considered very offencive

This is also an apology for using fag so much in the forums.)

The word fag. Now, many think is means gay/homosexual, correct? First off, it's original uses were for/of a cigarret, something tiresome, a pile of sticks, and a younger boy who worked for in older one in British public schools. This word is also very offencive to homosexual males, correct again, right?

Well, I find cursing to be offencive (no, this isn't my rant on cursing).

Why must we use this in the matter of homosexual? What if I am not calling someone a homosexual while using this word? It strikes me as strange how we have to pervert every word. What if I were to use it as "I'd never smoke a fag."? I'd probably get another flame on that (or ban).

Now, why must we make this word unsayable when other "cursing" words are not? Well, many argue that they grew up cursing, and therefore it is ok. I argue that I grew up (from age 9 or so, until now) using this word (learned from friends) as a meaningless insult.

So,
1: Sorry for using the word
2: Sorry if this rant was unclear, like most of my rants supposedly are.
3: Why do all these words have to be perverted?
4: Why is it wrong to use fag but not to use F*ck?

Thank you, I shall not return to this part of the forum again for a long time, and if I am flammed, never. (Though I might reply to this particular rant).

[Solstis]

On 2004-08-04 19:02, InfernoNR7 wrote:


Now, why must we make this word unsayable when other "cursing" words are not? Well, many argue that they grew up cursing, and therefore it is ok. I argue that I grew up (from age 9 or so, until now) using this word (learned from friends) as a meaningless insult.

First: Apology accepted.

Now, the word fag, or variations thereof, actually "target" (well, not target) a single group/groups. As do the "n" word and others.

Other common insults do not, and thus, don't make it feel like someone is stabbing you in the chest and twisting the knife.

[digigram]

Oct 17, 1989
your birthday right? that would make you, what, 15?

Fag has been used, in the US, since the 1950's as a negative and anti-homosexual slur. The same way the big N word has been used for AfricanAmericans even before the 50's.

My reason for stating your age? Because kids your age use the term FAG with negative intent. You don't believe me? What did you call solstis earlier? Were you regarded solstis as a "pile of sticks" or a "cigarette"? ... I think not.

As for saying F__K .. it has no meaning, it is just a word. but when used in a way such as, "F__K you, you F___ing F____er" that would be based on negative intent..

Fag, N___er, ch__k, Ra_Head.... all the same.

You just so happen to have called someone a Fag today..

Doesn't that make you feel smarter?

Stop wasting our time trying to justify your original , childish and untolerable intent by calling people things that emotionally can mess with them, when they in fact have done NOTHING wrong to you.

Half of my friends are "fags", my brother is a "fag", i'm married to a woman that half of her friends are fags..

f___ing grow up. (that better? although I don't know why I'm censoring my rights just so that someone can try and justify calling someone else a fag)

To sum things up, I don't think i'll accept your apology, what has been said is said, you can't push reset and have it all better...

If I ever called someone a fag in real life, or called a black man N____er ... i sure as hell would expect them to beat me into the ground. And I would deserve it.

although I don't accept your apology, I do hold nothing against you now. People learn from their mistakes.. I hope you learn from yours.



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[InfernoNR7]

On 2004-08-04 19:10, Solstis wrote:

First: Apology accepted.

Now, the word fag, or variations thereof, actually "target" (well, not target) a single group/groups. As do the "n" word and others.

Other common insults do not, and thus, don't make it feel like someone is stabbing you in the chest and twisting the knife.

Hmm, I see your point. Hmmmmm..... Wondering, so like African Americans and Black Americans sometimes call each other an "N" word, is it alright for a homosexual to then call another a "Fa" word? Also, it does kinda target me when others insult me on my intellignece (pretty much the only thing in life I take pride in), like insulting others on their homosexuality.

However (again) I do see your point.

[InfernoNR7]

On 2004-08-04 19:14, digigram wrote:
Oct 17, 1989
your birthday right? that would make you, what, 15?

Fag has been used, in the US, since the 1950's as a negative and anti-homosexual slur. The same way the big N word has been used for AfricanAmericans even before the 50's.

My reason for stating your age? Because kids your age use the term FAG with negative intent. You don't believe me? What did you call solstis earlier? Were you regarded solstis as a "pile of sticks" or a "cigarette"? ... I think not.

As for saying F__K .. it has no meaning, it is just a word. but when used in a way such as, "F__K you, you F___ing F____er" that would be based on negative intent..

Fag, N___er, ch__k, Ra_Head.... all the same.

You just so happen to have called someone a Fag today..

Doesn't that make you feel smarter?

Stop wasting our time trying to justify your original , childish and untolerable intent by calling people things that emotionally can mess with them, when they in fact have done NOTHING wrong to you.

Half of my friends are "fags", my brother is a "fag", i'm married to a woman that half of her friends are fags..

f___ing grow up. (that better? although I don't know why I'm censoring my rights just so that someone can try and justify calling someone else a fag)

*sigh* I guess you didn't see the part, at the very beginning of the post, where I FRICKEN APOLOGISED FOR THAT. I also edited the post where I called someone that, and apologised in that thread as well.

This was meant to be a rant on several things, as well as an apology for several things. Quite obviously, you didn't get or read my entire post.

Thanks,
Inferno

PS, I did say that I would probably leave for a long time if I got flammed for this post. So, I will be leaving for awhile after this thread is over.

[agenevil]

I think you should just take a reak for a day or two...


I get really pissy sometimes, we all do. You just need time to sort things out.

Maybe youll be in a better mood in those 2 days.

[Solstis]

On 2004-08-04 19:14, InfernoNR7 wrote:

On 2004-08-04 19:10, Solstis wrote:

First: Apology accepted.

Now, the word fag, or variations thereof, actually "target" (well, not target) a single group/groups. As do the "n" word and others.

Other common insults do not, and thus, don't make it feel like someone is stabbing you in the chest and twisting the knife.

Hmm, I see your point. Hmmmmm..... Wondering, so like African Americans and Black Americans sometimes call each other an "N" word, is it alright for a homosexual to then call another a "Fa" word? Also, it does kinda target me when others insult me on my intellignece (pretty much the only thing in life I take pride in), like insulting others on their homosexuality.

However (again) I do see your point.

It's like an inside joke man.

And I get to use both. n.n

[InfernoNR7]

On 2004-08-04 19:19, agenevil wrote:
I think you should just take a reak for a day or two...


I get really pissy sometimes, we all do. You just need time to sort things out.

Maybe youll be in a better mood in those 2 days.

That's what I'm doing actually, that's why this is titled my final rant....

I did break my rule and I kinda replied to your rant...... it offended me very much.

[ABDUR101]

If you called someone a fag, then you're breaking the rules. We don't allow that because then everyone would just use the excuse "Well he's tiresome, so I called him a fag".

There are quite afew other descriptive words you can use, some that are less offensive. It's the same reason we don't let people call each other the "n" word even if they don't mean anything by it, because it's offensive to some and we don't want to second guess the use of the word.

Swearing is fine as long as it's not in copious amounts.

Everyone needs a break sometime, go for it.

[digigram]

ugh.. you don't get it.

Editing a fucking post and apologizing are too late.

Try going out into a bar, walking up to a black man and calling them N___Er and then say sorry.. it doesn't work.

lastly. I did read your post, thoroughly. That does not change my opinion of you. You said sorry, big deal, stepping on someones foot accidentally deserves a sorry, calling someone an extremely sensitive word in a negative fashion burns your personality into someones memory so as to avoid you.