Dear Hunters, Rangers and Forces: Why can't we be friends?

[Ryogen]

I have a great experience playing online and with the three classes in Phantasy Star Universe. Yeah you can find some annoying players online and such, but I want to get this straight with PSOW. You guys are cool and everything, but I have seen way too many complaints about each other here without some of you thinking about the other side of your argument "Forces are superior", "stop the item distribution", "rangers and hunters don't spread the enemy", "too many rangers", "they boot me from the game", yatta yatta.

Of course, Hunter and Ranger can molest the enemy before Force spells hit it. Of course Rangers can take em out before hunter gets a hit on em. Of course if healers don't heal someone will die. Yeah we can actually loot all the goodies when you wanted it on Give Finder and your intentions were to loot, but now you feel the pain of what your doing. Yeah maybe that shop is overpriced, move on to the next one.

If your complaing, you must be/was in a party I'm guessing, but to have a good party, learn to adapt to parties. Don't adapt to the forums, do it in your party. We have keyboards and mics for a reason. To communicate with each other. A lot of us players are actualy kind enough to meet some demands here and there.

I look at these post and I say, "yeah, but I haven't seen you in game, we never played with each other, why you got to take it out on us ." I mean if you have to really talk about it, it's cool, but don't complain, becuase all problems can be solved with just leaving the party or playing alone if all esle fails and for shops, move on.

Let's step down these type of topics (well just the one that cause arguments and not debates). Ya know, we play online, there are things we have to deal with in wich we can solve in under a minute.

Well I made you guys somthing (cuz I'm bored). I remixed the song "Why Can't we be friends" Not to good at remixing such songs, but I think it's funny.


WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS

BY WAR (Ryo-mixed for PSU)


Chorus:

Why can't we be friends (4x)

I've seen you 'round just hanging loose
I remembered you when you drank my juice (lol)

Chorus

I've seen you walking around at Neudaiz
I called you but you went into the Flyer Base

Chorus

I paid my money to on the Linear Line
I see you standing in it every time

Chorus

The Class of your race don't matter to me
As long as we can play in harmony

Chorus

I'd kind of like to be a shop owner.
So I can show you how to be a baller.

Chorus

Sometimes I don't speak(type) right
But yet I know what I'm talking about

Chorus

I know you're working for the Guardians
They wouldn't have you in the A.M.F.

Chorus
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus


Well, I hope we can stop the arguing and take action I enjoy you guys, so ya know. Have fun and don't let bad experience ruin it...ruin it enough to take it out on the forums.

[Garnet_Moon]

Well, personally I always ask the forces in my party if i'm raping mobs too fast for them to tag them and what not. I don't just do it brainlessly. When they say i'm going to fast(especially the fresh 30s) I switch to a lower % on my main weps and/or circle strafe mobs more to give them more time to position and stuff. I go out of my way to help them if they say they need it. If they say they are fine then i'm going back to being Lu Bu.

Communication is key. This is what I love about the Phantasy Star series. Rare monsters, items, and Lobby Soccer are just big fat bonuses.

NOTE: I don't always ask. I know who is doing the highest damage, who is idling the most, who needs target practice, etc. I'm a Hunter. It is my job to know what is going on around me at all times... especially when leader mobs spawn. I have made a special macro to alert everyone that they have spawned. Usually i'm the first to notice them cause of how hard they hit... hard to mistake them with weak ones lol. If I notice a Force having trouble I do ask. If I don't notice them falling behind I don't ask.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2006-11-10 21:33 ]</font>

[Grr]

Lu Bu is broken , however , that one guy , on that black horse you cant be knocked off of , is downright unfair (you know what Im talkin' bout.) also , i enjoy the old man with the bow special attacks.

[Miyoko]

I like huang guy, 'cause you can run around saying "YOU'RE MESSING WITH THE HUANG GUY!"

...

Ontopic, however, I'm glad I can avoid drama that leads to these types of topics (not saying this one's bad, mind you) by playing with a good group of friends who understands the role of each class.

[February]

I've never seen any of this drama. the groups I plan in are all lollipops and candy canes. It's all love here.

[BloodDragoon]

Yeah Lu Bu is a puss... *Kills Diao Chan* Umm.... why is my army's morale dropping every 5 seconds? Oh Shi-...

[Ryogen]

Uhh, don't mess with Lu Bu. Suicide...

[BooChan]

The venting and complaints on forums are blown out of proportion. I have never seen or witnessed any rude behavior towrds any class online on Ps2. The only time people voice their complaints is on message boards. And its only a handful of people. I guess I'm pretty much nip it in the bud right now.

We American gamers are a selfish lot. And please spare me whining that we are not. The first week of PSU I've seen numerous open parties. Now I see lots of locked ones. It happend in PSO as well. Its bad when american players have a low tolerance for one another. And we wonder why japanese players can't stand us. I consider myself a casual PSU player. I'm not hardcore enough to where I spend hours playing by myself in a lock game. And I'm too old to be so obnoxious to pick up every item when I'm in a party with others. I thank force players who do heal and I spare mates for those that are unprepared. So far all I've read are complaints and excuses for some players selfish behavior. Thats all it is. Excuses range from "I don't want to play(insert class here) this way because I don't won't to babysit" to " if you really wanted items and meseta you should run and get it". Bottom line is we got teenagers and young adults who lack a sense of responsibility for their actions and common courtesy. Sure its your 10$ so you can play however you choose. But how you choose to play affects other players around you. I'm sure I'll get someone who will say "But I play alone I'm not hurting anyone". No your not hurting anyone. But after 80+ plus hours reaching the level cap,leveling up your PM to "lolibot" status,opening up and shop, and selling things for outrageous prices. You then decide to join party games just to show off your leet status by clearing a mission before other players can kill one creature. No your not hurting anyone but you show everyone your lack of common courtesy and people skills. Yeah,Yeah from a certain perspective that being the status quo opinion of play how you want makes my little say a matter of personal choice. But to be perfectly blunt too many young people are making excuses for every selfish thing that they do. I hate to add drama to a thread that asks for peace and healing. But even though Dr Martin Luther King stressed non violence he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and let people know when they were doing wrong based on their actions. The root of the problem is pure selfishness. We are all selfish to a degree so none of us including myself are saints. The good news is that its not as bad online as the heated posts on the boards dictate.

[Grr]

On 2006-11-11 01:38, Ryogen wrote:
Uhh, don't mess with Lu Bu. Suicide...

Beating him on the hardest rank is the only way to obtain that guy who looks like captain hook in the right costumes final set of cards. It was a challenge to say the least. lots of "oh S*** run hes invincible and can kill me in one hit , better go pick on an ARMY to build my special gauge up"

yeah he > than an army.

Anyways On topic, I wecome any Pt member of any rank , I do tend to prefer other Rangers becuase we are kind of rare, and a good force is always a supermega plus, but hunters are more than welcome to break faces with blades in any party Im ever in

[daylight129]

On 2006-11-11 02:14, BooChan wrote:
The venting and complaints on forums are blown out of proportion. I have never seen or witnessed any rude behavior towrds any class online on Ps2. The only time people voice their complaints is on message boards. And its only a handful of people. I guess I'm pretty much nip it in the bud right now.

We American gamers are a selfish lot. And please spare me whining that we are not. The first week of PSU I've seen numerous open parties. Now I see lots of locked ones. It happend in PSO as well. Its bad when american players have a low tolerance for one another. And we wonder why japanese players can't stand us. I consider myself a casual PSU player. I'm not hardcore enough to where I spend hours playing by myself in a lock game. And I'm too old to be so obnoxious to pick up every item when I'm in a party with others. I thank force players who do heal and I spare mates for those that are unprepared. So far all I've read are complaints and excuses for some players selfish behavior. Thats all it is. Excuses range from "I don't want to play(insert class here) this way because I don't won't to babysit" to " if you really wanted items and meseta you should run and get it". Bottom line is we got teenagers and young adults who lack a sense of responsibility for their actions and common courtesy. Sure its your 10$ so you can play however you choose. But how you choose to play affects other players around you. I'm sure I'll get someone who will say "But I play alone I'm not hurting anyone". No your not hurting anyone. But after 80+ plus hours reaching the level cap,leveling up your PM to "lolibot" status,opening up and shop, and selling things for outrageous prices. You then decide to join party games just to show off your leet status by clearing a mission before other players can kill one creature. No your not hurting anyone but you show everyone your lack of common courtesy and people skills. Yeah,Yeah from a certain perspective that being the status quo opinion of play how you want makes my little say a matter of personal choice. But to be perfectly blunt too many young people are making excuses for every selfish thing that they do. I hate to add drama to a thread that asks for peace and healing. But even though Dr Martin Luther King stressed non violence he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and let people know when they were doing wrong based on their actions. The root of the problem is pure selfishness. We are all selfish to a degree so none of us including myself are saints. The good news is that its not as bad online as the heated posts on the boards dictate.

I want to the read the book called "Manners in MMO's". You obviously read it somewhere...

Call me selfish again, call me a jerk, but I stress so much the ability to only look out for yourself and only the people you make good friends with. That's why I was Anti-comeingivefindergamesandbitch. If people bitch and whine about item distribution, they're gone, if they cry about how immature I am for anything, they're gone, and even if they afk for 5 minutes, they're gone. I have met many people and made good friends already from being on PSU, so I don't give 2 bits of damn about being a "caring" or "polite" person (whatever that is in an MMO) on a game unless they are worth my time. Almost every single successful person in the entire world has probably hurt someones feelings to get there, or cheated something, or done something backstabbish. It's life. Deal.