Who makes a better Guntecher

[Raysa]

I would say Newman, because actually hitting a monster and getting SE's to stick is win.

[Miyuki-chan]

I'm gonna have to agree with Sounomi as well, covered the big points whereas
i covered some of the smaller issues that are more of a kind of gripe lol

[Sychosis]

I don't see ATA being a problem at all, even a Phantom has only a 158 ATA requirement. A Beast GT is going to be only a few points shy of a CAST FiG. I don't think anyone is going to say CAST FiGs miss often.

But I must confess I can't stand Beasts and will likely never see how a Beast GT fares.

[Blanky]

What most of you don't realize is that the ATA of a Human GT has is pretty much an overkill so the ATA of newmans argument is negligible. A beast GT shouldn't have any troubles hitting, so SE spread won't be a problem, and then when you put a crossbow or card in their hands...watch out.




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[malice_nyc]

Cards will only ever do SE2, so even with that, Beasts will have some issues.

Notwithstanding the extremely high ATA requirements of cards, I would have to say that Newmans will fill this role better than beasts, from a stats standpoint anyway. GTs need high ATA and TP, and the only race that puts those two together is the Newman. Beasts lack both, so will make (ignoring player skill, which is the most valuable aspect of the game) arguably the worst GTs.

That said... no race/class combo is unplayable, and for a reason. Since GT techs are capped at 10, you won't be doing damage with them anyway. If you focus on high DPS weapons like twin handguns, you should overcome the beast lack of ATA through sheer number of hits and damage dealt. Get twin freeze and twin dark and go to town

[xennec]

As a beast gt, I have NO problem hitting enemies.

And I must remind everyone, gt shouldn't be using damage techs to inflict damage. As for support techs, in AoI gt get lvl 30.

[Spider]

I've decided on going NEwman Thanks guys!

[Criss]

You should note that, because of the huge ATA mods for GTs, beasts have absolutely no accuracy problems, and can apply SEs as good as any other race. Especially since it can cast Zodial on himself. And about TP, race doesn't matter when your class mod cripples TP that bad. And once we get AoI, the doubled TP mod will allow beasts to equip equally good wands, which will still make them pretty good on the healing side. Remember, there's no use healing for twice someone's max HP.

As a beast GT, I'm more than satisfied with my accuracy, buffs aren't affected by stats, and resta isn't a GT's job anyways. (At least not before AoI.) So frankly, I'd take being able to deal 180 dmg a hit with machineguns or 750+ a card shot at lv 60 over healing 60 more HP anyday.

Edit: Oh, and we have Nanoblasts. Rawr. =3

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[Miyuki-chan]

My cast GT is pretty good with the "Gun" part of the class, but completely and utterly
worthless with what little "techer" side there is to it... at least until AoI comes anyway

I mean seriously... with a Baton +5, Retier, and lvl 10 Resta, she heals for all of 240....

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[-Shimarisu-]

On 2007-04-21 19:15, Miyuki-chan wrote:
Newmans! they're the only race that can currently make any real use out of the "techer"
side of the class... aside from maybe humans... on top of the racial stat bonus too

The teching side of the class doesn't really matter, but as a human guntecher I can tell you beast is going to have a hard time fighting the bad ATA. I had hitting issues up to job lvl 4 or so, you have to lvl the PAs. Really I'd say casts and humans were the best choice for this class, but newmans are better than beasts.

If you must be a beast gunner, go Forte.