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  1. #691

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    Quote Originally Posted by adios View Post
    I mentioned the trees as alternatives to either. Not that necessarily you should run Fire + PP OR Lightning + Dark. One example being Sanctum where I run Fire + Dark due to possible Ragne and darker exterminations (Lv 55 Ragne with lightning is dull and slow and makes me want to strangle something...).
    That's exactly what I do too, but I think the main problem is the fact that this guy (and many others) only have 1 tree to choose from.
    So we need to approach this from that perspective, in which case I think going for an all-round build with both Fire and Lightning on the FO tree is probably for the best.

    I think it's too much to ask for new players to pick 1 or 2 elements, then stick to their guns and learn to be efficient via TPS and whatnot, and even then, that playstyle is probably more suited to /FI, since the damage spread will be even regardless of enemy weakness
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    Personally, I think even if you have one tree, you're best specialising in one element. Using either tree, you can wipe the floor with pretty much any map. Foie/Rafoie/Safoie with proper aiming and conservation will get you through anything, as will Zonde/Zondeel. I never have any troubles when I "forget" to switch my tree, unless I'm trying to TA (because then it will actually matter).

    You also have to remember that no matter what your build is, you get +27.05% damage (33% if you opt for Bolt Save 5 instead of 10, which I recommend) and 30 extra attack from neutral charges, easily allowing you to use the other element on a "pure" tree, and you get +9% from the other mastery as well.

    FO Fire and TE Battery trees

    FO Lightning and TE Dark

    Also, if anyone has a third FO tree, I highly recommend this ice tree as well, as it completely annihilates AQ Caves. Plus you can actually do realistic damage on Vol, lol (only his horns are weak to dark).

    I have no idea if anyone actually posted trees, I'm just posting because I like sharing the trees I use, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-0 View Post
    Personally, I think even if you have one tree, you're best specialising in one element. Using either tree, you can wipe the floor with pretty much any map. Foie/Rafoie/Safoie with proper aiming and conservation will get you through anything, as will Zonde/Zondeel. I never have any troubles when I "forget" to switch my tree, unless I'm trying to TA (because then it will actually matter).

    You also have to remember that no matter what your build is, you get +27.05% damage (33% if you opt for Bolt Save 5 instead of 10, which I recommend) and 30 extra attack from neutral charges, easily allowing you to use the other element on a "pure" tree, and you get +9% from the other mastery as well.

    FO Fire and TE Battery trees

    FO Lightning and TE Dark

    Also, if anyone has a third FO tree, I highly recommend this ice tree as well, as it completely annihilates AQ Caves. Plus you can actually do realistic damage on Vol, lol (only his horns are weak to dark).

    I have no idea if anyone actually posted trees, I'm just posting because I like sharing the trees I use, lol.
    I might buy a tree to experiment with ice for caves. Wouldn't Samegid still kill Vol faster though? Even with neutral damage, if you're using a dark tree against him, I would think it's still the fastest way to kill him given the open space of A-3 in caves AQ. Then again, I have no idea the numbers an ice tree would put out on any tech

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    does anyone a pure tech build as opposed to my hybrid build and have both wind masteries maxed? im curious what kind of damage zan does per blade with such a build. with my hybrid setup i do 1000X3 on normal mobs and on certain bosses i can do 1000x6.

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  5. #695

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    Quote Originally Posted by SociableTyrannosaur View Post
    Guess you didn't read the new OP.
    You never did use my latest technic writeup. Most notable change was for Zonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisha View Post
    does anyone a pure tech build as opposed to my hybrid build and have both wind masteries maxed? im curious what kind of damage zan does per blade with such a build. with my hybrid setup i do 1000X3 on normal mobs and on certain bosses i can do 1000x6.
    If, for whatever reason, you wanted to cap both wind masteries, it would be something like this.
    http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...dsI2J2Ibib0000

    You have to sacrifice PP conversion completely to use a maxed Wind Tree so PP Restorate is maxed. This tree would be pointless though because there is no area where singular Zan spam is comparable to Fire/Lightning to begin with... Zan is good for particular bosses/mobs. That's really it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnLucky View Post
    You never did use my latest technic writeup. Most notable change was for Zonde.
    I must have missed it. what page is it on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SociableTyrannosaur View Post
    I must have missed it. what page is it on?
    http://www.pso-world.com/forums/show...&postcount=575

    It's more than just a category name change. If you want, you can add to Megid that it's the best close range AoE for a pure Dark Fo/Te, next to Zondeel.


    Also you should probably put the non-reversible Fo/Fi as the main thing or separate instead of hidden in the Fi/Fo description.
    Last edited by UnLucky; May 13, 2013 at 02:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnLucky View Post
    http://www.pso-world.com/forums/show...&postcount=575

    It's more than just a category name change. If you want, you can add to Megid that it's the best close range AoE for a pure Dark Fo/Te, next to Zondeel.


    Also you should probably put the non-reversible Fo/Fi as the main thing or separate instead of hidden in the Fi/Fo description.
    I'll be sure to look at it tomorrow when I have time. I need to be up in 6 hours so I'm off. Thanks for the help, UnLucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnLucky View Post
    I assure you it is 100% up to date with the current state of the game.

    What it may not be, however, is perfect for all/most/some players or even reasonable advice at all.

    If you have a specific issue, suggestion, correction, or opinion, voice it. But you're not helping like this. Post a better build or point out what's wrong about the write up. Just keep in mind that these are general guidelines for players with only one tree, and no skill resets.
    He doesn't have anything to add, he's just looking for a fight. Anyway I updated the Fo/Fi section. Let me know what you think.

    edit: sorry another build got mixed up in there. updated.
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