"rare" problem with rare monsters

[flueggy]

okay this happens to me all teh time but once, okay i am RAcast whitill piping for some rare monsters and my problem is i pipe and i pipe and no rare monster i've only found one once when i was piping other monsters just appear casually, you know just luck, what i need help on is that i need someone to clarify this, i sthere and actual way to pipe for the monster, is it like i have to pipe 130 times in beteeen two different beat times, example:
i play fores of sorrow quest in search of a hiledetorr i find a hildelt and start piping at 645 beats, hildetorr time is beteen 643-647(i may not be right but its an example,i've already piped 130 time at beat time 666 and will the hildetorr appear or not? some one please clarify this and also i want to know hildetorr time and mil lily time. Something like on my example happenned last night when i was lookin for a hildetorr, no hildetorr, no rare enemis for me only one hildeblue

[neko-chan]

The theory regarding the beat time that is supposed to affect the rare enemies appearance has been floating around since months, but it has not been proved.

A rare monster may appear or not, but it's just a matter of real life luck, such as winning the lottery.

The only rule that applies to the "pipe-trick" is that the "pipe-trick" doesn't work online, since enemy's data is stored server side.

Good luck.

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[flueggy]

i'm offline though

[heyf00L]

I think I see you're problem. Try piping more than 1 guy at a time. : You can pipe 4 hildelts at a time in FoS.

[Mixfortune]

On 2003-10-15 10:51, heyf00L wrote:
I think I see you're problem. Try piping more than 1 guy at a time. : You can pipe 4 hildelts at a time in FoS.

This is correct. There is a certain way to get 4.
In the last room two Hidelts begin by walking around.
If you run past them to the far side of the room,
another one will jump down.

Kill ONLY the one that jumped down. After that, a
second one will jump down from near the entrance of
the room. Again, kill ONLY that Hidelt. The two original
Hidelts should still be alive.

After killing the second Hidelt that jumped down,
two will jump in from the sides. Leave the room,
and then start piping. Each time you pipe, you basically
quadrupled your chances of finding a Hildetorr.
This still can take a while though, but can make it
a lot easier.

Also note: If you lost track of which Hidelt to kill,
just leave the room and pipe back in. The Hidelt that
jumps down (the ones you want to kill) will jump down again.

Hope this helps!

[flueggy]

how does it work with other enemies though just do it regularly

[Mixfortune]

After a while you can spot areas where piping would
be more beneficial than in other areas. Here are some
suggestions for offline piping areas.

Forest Hildetorrs, the 4 Hidelts in Forest of Sorrow.

Forest Pal Rappies, Fake In Yellow runs. If you can
defeat rappies with no problem, then I would recommend
doing actual runs instead of piping. This way you get
decent experience as well.

Caves Mil Lillies, Addicting Food. An optional room
in Caves 2 has a room with 6 lillies at the same time.

Caves Pouilly Slimes, Addicting Food. There is a room
with 2 poufuilly slimes. Split them into a total of
8 slimes, then pipe out. Repeat splitting and piping.

I have not had much experience in finding the best
places for Temple rare enemies. Just find a room that
spawns 3 or 4 at the same time and pipe there. To make
it easier, clear out other enemies that may get in
the way. Remember that Mil Lillies and Hildetorrs can
shoot Megid. Keep this in mind as you fight them,
especially Mil Lillies, as Ob Lillies can also spit Megid.

These areas work also in all difficulties. Quests are
recommended when possible since they always use the
same variations.

[HighElf9310]

Here is a link of a guide that this website has on it...http://www.pso-world.com/sections.ph...icle&artid=419

I think everything has been mentioned though, but it still might be useful.

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[Olga-Rappy]

Topic Creator - I have the same problem, I tried everything, even the beat time stuff (which I have thoguht and still think is a load of Gulgus dung); eventually I came to the realization that I'd have to trade for a God/Power, and I didn't need a Frozen Shooter anyway.

To this day, I have yet to find a Hideltorr. I'm personally glad though, I only needed 2 God/Powers, and from the picture Sounomi showed me, they look tough-as-nails.

[LoreSeeker]

I saw a Hildetorr on accident one time, it dropped a decent chunk of meseta, but that's all. They really aren't all that hard, you just have to avoid the Megid. I'd say the best way to do that is to simply freeze them using a Frozen Shooter or Snow Queen.

Regarding the issue of not seeing any rare enemies while piping, you should just keep going. It's all about luck, so maybe you'll get lucky some time. I wouldn't bother with the beat time theory, you'll most likely spend more time trying to figure out when to play/when to set your console's clock to than piping.